Rebirth 99 to become a car giant.

Chapter 258 Knowing that there are tigers on the mountain, I prefer to go to the mountain

Loyalty is helpful to the deeds!

What our ancestors said is absolutely the truth.

Although Cao Yang, the student, was more of a student with Xiang Changle in name only, he had not actually come to attend a few classes.

But both publicly and privately, Xiang Changle hopes that Nanshan Group can develop better and avoid more pitfalls.

Now Cao Yangming knows that car-grade chips are a huge pit, but he still wants to continue jumping into the pit.

What Xiang Changle can do is to provide him with some suggestions to avoid pitfalls as much as possible.

Don't bear the pressure alone, find more partners, is one of his suggestions.

"Teacher, do you have any specific partners to recommend?"

Engaging in chips nowadays is not a good business to make money.

Cao Yang naturally wouldn't mind finding a few partners to do it together.

Of course, the premise is that this partner must be reliable and cannot be a pig teammate.

Although Xiang Changle is not an expert in chip design, he is still half an insider in the industry. He obviously knows more about this situation than Cao Yang.

"When it comes to specific partners, this is really crucial."

"I have heard more about Warwick Company in Shenzhen before. They have also cooperated closely with our school in recent years, and they should have accumulated a lot of experience in semiconductors."

"But they have been doing it themselves before. It's hard to say whether they are willing to cooperate with you."

Xiang Changle immediately said a name that Cao Yang was familiar with.

Warwick.

People are really serious when it comes to semiconductors.

Although more than ten years later they will be targeted because they are too powerful.

But in the past ten years, he has been a very good partner.

Moreover, they have been engaged in semiconductors for many years. Nanshan was a good choice to lend a hand.

"I immediately arranged for someone to contact the people from Warwick Company. When I went to participate in the National Science and Technology Progress Award, I had a brief encounter with the people from the other party."

Cao Yang accepted Xiang Changle's suggestion without much hesitation.

You can "come up" with some powerful semiconductor-related technologies, but without a suitable platform, it will be very difficult to implement those technologies.

Warwick's semiconductor department is obviously a very good platform.

It seems that their HiSilicon was established this year?

If the communication is good, it is really possible to become one of the shareholders of HiSilicon.

"Also, I heard some news, but I don't know if it is reliable or not."

Xiang Changle thought for a while and then said: "It is said that BYD also intends to engage in semiconductors, and they are also Nanshan's partners."

"If you do it together, you can also reduce the risk to each other."

"I think you can have a good chat with their President Wang."

After Xiang Changle was reminded like this, Cao Yang suddenly felt enlightened.

BYD's semiconductor department in later generations was also relatively powerful.

Relatively high-end gadgets such as IGBTs can already be made at home.

But I didn't seem to have heard that BYD had a semiconductor division within it before.

It seems that the other party only started planning to enter the semiconductor business in the past two years.

"Teacher, this reminder is so timely. BYD is indeed a very good partner."

"They intend to produce electric vehicles and hybrid models, which require the use of a lot of control parts such as inverters and involve a lot of chips."

"If you want to master these core components and occupy a dominant position in the industry, manufacturing semiconductors yourself is a good choice."

"I will go to BYD in person tomorrow to visit their CEO, Mr. Wang, and have a good chat with him."

Seeing that Cao Yang had fully listened to his suggestions, Xiang Changle was in a good mood and said: "There are some teachers in our college who study this area. Then I will also see if any of them are interested in Nanshan's semiconductor project, no matter what Whether it's cooperation, recruiting their graduate students, or asking them to help recommend talents, it should be able to play some role."

"As a teacher, that's all I can help you with."

Xiang Changle naturally hopes that Nanshan Group can develop automotive-grade chips.

This is a good thing for both him and Lingnan University of Technology.

……

This is not Cao Yang’s first visit to BYD.

However, the purpose of coming this time is very different from the previous one.

So when the other party received the discussion topic of Nanshan Group's visit, an internal meeting was immediately held.

"Mr. Wang, the other party wants to come over and report to us that the chips used in parts such as engines and gearboxes have been switched from Infineon to NXP or Texas Instruments. It is expected and nothing special."

"But the second topic mentioned cooperation with us in semiconductor research and development, which is a bit strange."

After Zhong Qiang received the contact from Nanshan, he reported to Wang Fu immediately.

Although Cao Yang and Wang Fu can communicate directly, if you always skip the people below when doing things, it can actually easily cause dissatisfaction among the people below.

So for this visit, Cao Yang asked Zeng Tingting to contact Zhong Qiang and coordinate the schedule of the bosses through the ministers of both parties.

"No, it's not weird at all!"

"The strange thing is how the other party knew we wanted to engage in semiconductors so quickly."

Wang Fu's answer stunned Zhong Qiang for a moment and said, "Mr. Wang, do we, BYD, also want to develop our own chips?"

Obviously, until now, Zhong Qiang didn't know that the company had this idea.

The establishment of the semiconductor division is still in the process of communication between Wang Fu and Vice President of R&D Liang Chuanqing, and most people in the company are not aware of it yet.

Even whether it will engage in semiconductors has not yet been officially determined.

In this case, Nanshan smelled the smell and touched it, so Wang Fu felt a little strange.

"The company is now considering launching electric vehicles and hybrid vehicles, and the number of chips and other semiconductor components used on them will be much higher than the current F6."

"So Mr. Liang and I are discussing whether to set up a semiconductor division and produce control parts including components ourselves in the future."

"So far, only very few people know the news, and they don't know where Nanshan got it."

"He wants to discuss cooperation in this area, and I haven't made up my mind yet. It just so happens that we can have a chat, and there's no harm in it."

Wang Fu is naturally very aware of how difficult it is to get things like chips on his own.

So he was a little confused whether to do it or not.

It seems to be a good idea if Nanshan can help share the research and development costs.

"Nanshan was cheated by Infineon this time. Although several other chip manufacturers seemed to be willing to sell chips to them, it must have made Mr. Cao very angry."

"Otherwise, the idea of ​​researching chips by myself would not suddenly pop up."

Combining the information he had, Zhong Qiang quickly made a judgment.

Basically, this is also a fact.

"Infineon cut off the supply of chips to Nanshan, which can be regarded as a wake-up call for us."

"For parts that completely need to be imported and cannot find any domestic substitutes, you still need to consider developing them yourself."

"Otherwise, as the company develops and grows in the future, if someone cheats us, the losses will be too great."

Wang Fu was also quite emotional.

The case of Nanshan Group is a warning to everyone.

"Then we will normally agree to their chip switching plan?"

"According to the information currently available, chips from NXP and Texas Instruments can meet the requirements. It is said that the other party's agents are also very active in obtaining orders from Nanshan. There should be no supply problems."

Taking this opportunity, Zhong Qiang confirmed with Wang Fu the switching chips for engines, gearboxes and other parts.

After all, this is a relatively big change for BYD.

"I can only agree!"

"In this case, if we disagree, it will be adding insult to injury and it will not benefit anyone at that time."

Wang Fu was very understanding and agreed without any hesitation.

Of course, the premise must be that there are no problems with the tests at Nanshan.

"Then Mr. Cao and his entourage will come to visit tomorrow. I'll call Mr. Liang and the others to come?"

"Call everyone!"

"Let's see how Mr. Cao wants to cooperate with us in the semiconductor industry!"

"I'm really looking forward to it!"

Thinking of the rapid development of Nanshan Group in recent years, Wang Fu hoped that Cao Yang could surprise him.

……

"Mr. Cao, making chips is very expensive and risky. Are you sure Nanshan wants to jump into this pit?"

In a conference room of BYD, Cao Yang brought a group of Nanshan executives to a closed-door meeting with BYD executives.

The little things mentioned above are naturally no problem.

Everyone communicated smoothly.

Now that we have entered into the cooperation on semiconductor projects, the teams on both sides have become much more energetic.

Wang Fu didn't ask how Cao Yang knew BYD was planning to engage in semiconductors, and it wouldn't make much sense if he asked.

Cao Yang must have his own channels to get some information.

Although BYD's semiconductor business has not yet officially launched, communication with some scientific research institutions and other matters are in progress.

It’s not surprising that Nanshan can get some news.

"Mr. Wang, chips, especially car-grade chips, are indeed a big pit. If you jump in, you may not be able to get up."

"But if no one jumps, the hole will get bigger and bigger, so big that even if you want to fill it in the future, you won't know how to fill it."

"Currently, automotive chips have not received sufficient attention from various giants, and the manufacturing process is not advanced. Many chip giants have focused on chips used in consumer electronics such as computer CPUs."

"We are slowly developing some car-grade chips that are not so difficult, and gradually increasing the localization rate of chips. Although the risk is also very high, it is not without the possibility of success."

"Nanshan now invests 10% of its sales revenue in R&D every year. In the future, half of these R&D expenses will be invested in chip-related research."

"We are going to develop the key equipment of the chip ourselves."

"We are also prepared to work with various universities and enterprises to achieve 100% localization of some chip materials."

"In the early stage, we only need to start the chip design work first, and within ten years we will realize the involvement of the entire industry chain, and finally master the production of all car-grade chips."

"The road will certainly be difficult, but there is hope."

Faced with Wang Fu's question, Cao Yang gave a very positive answer.

There are many chips used in cars, and it is actually impossible for Nanshan to produce all the chips by itself.

Whether they are cooperating with BYD or Huawei, they all want to get some of the chips.

The remaining key chips will be researched by Nanshan himself.

Finally solved the problem of Nanshan's chip getting stuck.

It may even finally solve the problem of stuck chips in China’s automotive industry.

"I was still a little confused about whether to establish a semiconductor division."

"After listening to what you said, Mr. Cao, I don't think there is any need to worry about it anymore."

"But I just don't know how you want to cooperate, Mr. Cao?"

"There are many types of automotive-grade chips. Which ones do you plan to focus on developing?"

Wang Fu obviously has the intention to cooperate with Nanshan.

Now the size difference between the two parties is not very big, and they can be regarded as equal partners.

The key is Nanshan's ability to develop new technologies, which BYD has already seen.

In particular, Nanshan's strength in equipment is unparalleled by few domestic companies.

Wang Fu understands this very well.

"The two parties can jointly establish a semiconductor research company to conduct research on chip design first."

"At the beginning, you can start with some simple chips used in speakers and instruments, or even start with PCB boards. After slowly improving, you can study some main control chips and then build your own chip factory."

Cao Yang came here today to discuss cooperation and he was very sincere.

Naturally, I won’t go around in circles at this time.

So I expressed my thoughts directly.

There are many automotive-grade chips. We will cooperate with BYD to produce a batch, cooperate with Warwick to produce a batch, and Nanshan will produce a batch of them ourselves.

In the end, Cao Yang was confident that he could solve the chip's stuck neck problem.

When the time comes to enter the era of new energy vehicles, the demand for chips will increase significantly.

The advantages of Nanshan can be further reflected.

Especially when chips are in short supply, this advantage becomes even more critical.

"How much money does Mr. Cao plan to invest first?"

Wang Fu is also a happy person.

After feeling Cao Yang's sincerity, he directly entered the next stage.

"Semiconductor research is a very expensive industry. In order to make the employees of the new company more confident, I think the initial investment should be more impactful."

"The company's initial investment is 10 billion, and BYD and Nanshan each contribute 5 million, each holding half of the shares."

"What do you think, Mr. Wang, of this arrangement?"

When Cao Yang said this, Wang Fu breathed a sigh of relief.

It seems that Nanshan really wants to enter the semiconductor industry.

Otherwise, it would not be 5 million in one move.

This is 2004 million in [-], and the lethality is still very high.

"Mr. Cao is a cheerful person, so I won't be ink anymore!"

"The new company will invest according to this ratio, and both parties will arrange a group of personnel to start forming the company."

"But does Mr. Cao have any suggestions for the name of the company?"

Wang Fu seemed to have given the naming rights to Cao Yang.

In fact, it wants BYD to occupy an advantageous position.

After all, these companies are most likely BYD Nanshan or Nanshan BYD.

If Cao Yang were to make the suggestion, it would be inappropriate for him to say "Nanshan BYD", right?

Sure enough, after hearing Wang Fu's words, Cao Yang said without much hesitation: "Let's call it BYD Nanshan Semiconductor Research Institute."

"Focus on a research function. After all, no direct results can be produced in a short period of time. Don't put too much pressure on the company's employees."

"Of course, if there are no results in three to five years, we will have to consider a major change."

Seeing Cao Yang being so open-minded, Wang Fu had a lot of smiles on his face and said: "No problem, I will arrange for Mr. Liang Chuanqing to be responsible for the preparatory work of BYD Nanshan Semiconductor Research Institute. Over at Nanshan, Mr. Cao will also arrange the personnel as soon as possible. arrange."

As soon as the company finalized the direction of cooperation, Wang Fu couldn't wait to start practical work.

"no problem."

"The person in charge of semiconductor research in Nanshan will be determined the day after tomorrow if there are no surprises."

Since Cao Yang wants to engage in semiconductors, he naturally needs to recruit a group of experts to help.

Otherwise, he would act as the "expert" every time, which would be really suspicious.

Tool people always want it.

……

Warwick's integrated circuit design center started in 1991.

In 1993, the first digital ASIC was successfully developed.

In 1998, the first digital-analog hybrid ASIC was successfully developed.

In 2002, the first COT chip was successfully developed.

At the end of 2003, the first 1-million-gate-level ASIC was successfully developed.

It can be said that they have many years of experience in the chip field.

Although the main focus is on ASICs that require heavy use themselves, there are some things whose logic is universal.

If the other party is willing to cooperate with him, then Nanshan can still learn a lot.

"Company Headquarters, please make arrangements. Mr. Wang from Nanshan Group and his party will come over the day after tomorrow. They probably want to discuss technical cooperation with us."

Xu Jun is the head of the integrated circuit design center and concurrently serves as the company’s deputy general manager.

Naturally, he had heard about the Nanshan Group in Yangcheng for a long time.

When he went to receive the award, Cao Yang received three awards in one go.

It left a very deep impression on him.

In the past two years, although Nanshan's performance has not been as strong, it has still won the third prize of the National Science and Technology Progress Award twice.

That's already pretty amazing.

Therefore, he took Cao Yang's initiative to call him and come over to visit him quite seriously.

"Mr. Xu, Nanshan Group mainly produces auto parts and related equipment. It doesn't seem to have much overlap with us?"

Naturally, even Shida had heard of Nanshan Group.

After all, as the leader of private enterprises in Yangcheng, Nanshan Group's turnover exceeded 2003 billion in 300.

It almost surpassed Warwick’s RMB 317 billion.

And he heard that Nanshan will do 2004 billion in 500, but this goal is even higher than Warwick.

If it is really achieved, then Nanshan Group will be the largest private enterprise in Lingnan Province.

"I also find it a bit strange. Logically speaking, we don't have many interactions. I usually don't pay much attention to the affairs of Nanshan Group. I only occasionally see some news about them when I go online."

"But their business is so big, it wouldn't be surprising if they might have some interaction with us. Let's receive them well first."

Cao Yang did not tell Xu Jun directly on the phone that he wanted to cooperate with Huawei on chips.

After all, Warwick has been engaged in chip development for more than ten years, unlike BYD and Nanshan, which only started this year.

If you mention cooperation rashly, you will probably get a cold reception immediately.

……

"Mr. Cao, you mean that after I went to Nanshan, I directly served as the deputy general manager of BYD Nanshan Semiconductor Research Institute, and concurrently served as the director of the Semiconductor Division of Nanshan Research Institute?"

At Lingnan University of Technology, Cao Yang, accompanied by Xiang Changle, came to the office of Zhang Jing, a microelectronics major.

Xiang Changle had already introduced Zhang Jing's situation to Cao Yang before, and the other party also knew the purpose of Cao Yang's visit.

Although some things have not been completely finalized, the fact that both parties can meet shows that they are interesting to each other.

"That's right, I went to BYD yesterday and confirmed with Mr. Wang the establishment of BYD Nanshan Semiconductor Research Institute."

"At that time, the two shareholders of BYD and Nanshan will each contribute 5 million yuan as the first phase of start-up capital for BYD Nanshan Semiconductor Research Institute..."

Cao Yang introduced the company's situation to Zhang Jing very seriously.

Although domestic chip products are not popular, it does not mean that there are no talents in this field.

For example, Zhang Jing in front of me, after graduating from the University of Science and Technology of China, went to the University of California, Berkeley to study for a PhD. After graduation, he worked at AMD for two years, and then came to Lingnan University of Technology, attracted by the domestic talent introduction plan.

Now he is the youngest professor in the microelectronics major.

Xiang Changle had some interactions with him at work and had some understanding of Zhang Jing's situation.

Although Lingnan University of Technology is a top university in Lingnan Province, it is obviously very difficult to achieve great achievements in the semiconductor field.

A few years after returning to China, Zhang Jing seemed a little tired of that kind of life.

Especially when he visited the University of California, Berkeley some time ago, it was rumored that the other party wanted to poach him back to become a tenured professor.

That's why Xiang Changle strongly recommended Cao Yang and also did a lot of work for Zhang Jing alone.

"The semiconductor industry requires a huge amount of capital. One billion seems like a lot, and it may be burned out in less than two years!"

Zhang Jing was a little moved.

If Cao Yang is serious about semiconductors, then the opportunity now is indeed very rare.

"Professor Zhang, 10 billion is just the start-up capital, and we will inject capital regularly every year in the future!"

“My goal is that one day all the chips in the vehicle will be domestically produced.”

"Whether it is produced in BYD Nanshan, the Semiconductor Division of Nanshan Research Institute, or other domestic manufacturers, it is acceptable."

"In addition, this 10 billion is an investment from the joint venture company. Nanshan himself will invest at least the same amount of funds into the semiconductor division every year."

When Cao Yang said this, Xiang Changle couldn't help it anymore and said, "Mr. Cao, that's equivalent to an investment of 10 billion per year. Isn't it too radical?"

Although it is not necessary to be responsible for blowing the bullshit, it is too damaging to one's character.

Xiang Changle obviously didn't want Cao Yang to do such a thing that hurt his character.

"Teacher, Nanshan's turnover this year can reach 500 billion yuan, and its net profit for a year is at least 50 billion yuan."

"If it's only 10 billion, we can afford it!"

"Tomorrow I will go to Warwick to visit the head of their semiconductor division. Maybe in addition to BYD Nanshan Semiconductor Research Institute and Nanshan Research Institute Semiconductor Division, we will also establish a semiconductor cooperation project with Warwick."

Cao Yang once again dropped a bombshell.

One billion a year is not enough?

Is this 15 billion?

This is not how you spend your money, right?

"Mr. Cao, Nanshan Group has expanded its semiconductor business to such a large extent all of a sudden. I definitely can't do it alone."

Zhang Jing was obviously moved.

He felt that if he missed this opportunity, he would regret it for the rest of his life.

Although his skills are very good, from a global perspective, there are countless people who are better than him, not to mention grabbing a lot of them, but with both hands and feet.

In this case, the fact that Cao Yang trusted him so much was a huge opportunity for him.

"This is natural!"

"We have found a specialized headhunting company to contact researchers from TSMC and Samsung, and are also considering contacting some personnel from SMIC."

"My idea is that the joint venture and Nanshan's own semiconductor division will each have at least 100 research teams this year to officially launch chip research!"

When Cao Yang said this, Zhang Jing did not hesitate again.

"Mr. Cao, thank you for your trust. I am willing to follow Nanshan Group to witness the development of China's semiconductor industry."

"I used to have some classmates and colleagues in American AMD and other chip companies. I will also contact them when the time comes to see if anyone is willing to return to Yangcheng for development."

Zhang Jing quickly began to get into the role.

He regards Nanshan Group’s semiconductor business as his own business.

As long as he can get this business started, he will definitely gain both fame and fortune.

"Then it's Professor Zhang's fault!"

"In terms of remuneration, as long as you are talented, everything is negotiable!"

Since you have decided to spend money on chips, you must be willing to spend the money you should spend.

Based on the current financial report of Nanshan Group, it is simply too healthy.

Various banks are looking for Nanshan and want to ask them for more loans.

Even the little secretary Mi Ying was forced to work as a lobbyist several times.

However, Nanshan is really not short of money now.

Whether it's the gearbox or the engine, the profit margin is not bad.

Nanshan Special Steel is a cash cow.

Only one year after it was put into production, 100% of the production capacity has been utilized.

Regardless of the downturn in the entire steel industry, when it comes to high-end special steel products, an annual production capacity of 30 tons is nothing at all.

There is no need to export, it can be digested domestically.

Even Lingnan Province consumed [-]-[-]%.

The cash on hand of Nanshan Group has now exceeded 50 billion for more than ten consecutive months!