The strongest counterattack

Lin Su didn't ask what the news was. Lin Su knew about Qin Sheng's affairs but never asked, because she couldn't intervene in these matters and couldn't help them.

"By the way, how is that brother of yours doing these past few days?" Qin Sheng asked casually. He knew that Lin Ze had already started to help Lin Su, and let this dude who was the general manager of other companies under the Lin family condescend to him. Lin Su did not know if he could adapt.

Lin Su took a sip of red wine and replied truthfully, "At the beginning, he performed well, but I don't know what will happen after a long time. Anyway, I don't have any hope, I only give him one chance."

"Then let's have a look again," Qin Sheng replied with a smile.

After talking about this matter, Qin Sheng and Lin Su continued to live their two-person world, and no one would disturb them, just let the chaos outside.

Xue Ke and Gu Yongning were sent to the hospital for the second time within a month. I have to say that their luck is really bad. When they first came to Shanghai, they should find a master to calculate whether this trip to Shanghai is good or bad. Seeing that it is impossible for them to recoil with Shanghai, maybe there will be no such incident today.

Compared with the last warning, they are not so lucky this time. This time they will not be able to get out of bed if they are not in the hospital for half a year. Disabled, otherwise this will force the opponent to jump over the wall.

In the private hospital in Sheshan, Yan Chaozong finally calmed down, and he was no longer as irritable as before. He took the initiative to walk up to Hu Lan and apologized, "I'm sorry, I lost my temper just now, don't take it to heart, I have no other intentions."

Although Yan Chaozong's words were still a little stiff, but as the heir of the Yan family, being able to take the initiative to apologize has already shown his attitude. Hu Lan didn't put on airs so much, and replied, "Master, you don't have to apologize to me, I call Lan thinks she is incompetent, she failed to protect the boss and catch the murderer tonight, I will resign when the boss is safe and sound."

Yan Chaozong had already given him enough face, so of course Hu Lan had to express his opinion, he was really ashamed tonight, the big boss was seriously injured right under his nose, and in the end the murderer escaped, but he couldn't help but not stop the murderer, If he didn't catch up with the murderer, how could he gain a foothold in Yan's family in the future?

Therefore, no matter what the final result is, when the big boss wakes up, he will definitely resign voluntarily. This is his step and what he must do.Of course, he is also very clear that the Yan family may not agree. After all, he has been in the Yan family for so many years, and he has worked hard without credit. He will not really blame him for this, but he has to do it.

Similarly, regardless of whether Hu Lan is really planning to do this, or just pretending to be a gesture, Yan Chaozong has to stay, he said in a deep voice, "Brother Hu, I don't blame you for what happened tonight. There is no need for you to blame yourself tomorrow night, let alone talking about these things now, what we have to do now is how to find the murderer behind the scenes."

Hu Lan nodded silently, and said loudly, "Master, we can wait for the boss to wake up to discuss other matters. Just like what you said, we must find the murderer behind the scenes to avenge the boss, so just give me your orders, Master, and I, Hu Lan, have nothing to say."

Now that Hulan has already said that, Yan Chaozong is not polite. Usually he can't order Hulan, but today's situation is different. Yan Chaozong said in a deep voice, "Don't worry about the hospital. I will stay in the hospital for a few days. , I will entrust you with full power to investigate the murderer, Feng He will cooperate with you, and you can mobilize all the resources of the entire Yan family at will until the murderer is found."

"Master, don't worry, I will definitely do my best. Once the murderer is found, I will kill him with my own hands." Hu Lan said, patting his chest.

Hu Lan left immediately after speaking, and Feng He was already waiting outside. He has stayed in the Yan family for so many years, and he is also the confidant of Second Uncle Yan, so of course he knows what to do.

Just as Yan Chaozong had arranged this matter, his cell phone rang again. When he saw that it was Mr. Wu's call, Yan Chaozong frowned slightly, thinking that the news spread so fast, and it would not be long before Mr. Wu knew about it.In other words, Sanye Wu wants to ask about the matter that he said before asking the Yan family to come forward to negotiate with the old monk. If it is the latter, Yan Chaozong can only say sorry to him. Something happened to my second uncle. There is nothing the Yan family can do about it, after all, the Yan family is in a mess now.

It's a pity that Yan Chaozong's guess was wrong, not the two possibilities he guessed, but other things, one thing that made him even more unexpected and shocked, that is, Xue Ke and Gu Yongning were seriously injured and admitted to the hospital. Life and death are uncertain.

Yan Chaozong's scalp was a little numb. Two major incidents happened in one night. They were both suddenly attacked and seriously injured and admitted to the hospital. There is nothing strange about this. Yan Chaozong would not believe that he was beaten to death. It's Qin Sheng, otherwise, how could these two things be linked together?

Qin Sheng, what the hell is this crazy? Yan Chaozong couldn't help roaring in his heart.

If it was just one thing, Yan Chaozong might have guessed that someone else did it, but two things happened at the same time, they were so similar, Yan Chaozong didn't even think it was Qin Sheng's doing.

However, he attacked the Yan family and the Xue family and the Gu family at the same time, and attacked so ruthlessly, is Qin Sheng really not afraid of the stormy counterattack that followed? Their Qin family's situation is already so worrying, I'm not afraid The last straw that overwhelmed the Qin family.

"Qin Sheng, you have the guts" No matter what, Qin Sheng dared to be so crazy, it really made Yan Chaozong unexpected, and taught Yan Chaozong a hard lesson.

The third master Wu over there found that Yan Chaozong hadn't spoken for a long time, thinking that Yan Chaozong was guessing who was more likely to do it, but after a long time, Yan Chaozong still didn't speak, and finally Wu Sanye couldn't help but yelled a few times, This brought Yan Chaozong back to his senses.

Mr. Wu had already said on the phone that he still got the information from the Xue family. The Xue family contacted him directly. The uncle of Xue Ke directly questioned him a few words in a bad tone. He put on airs in front of Gu Yongning, but he didn't dare to put on airs in front of that big boss, so he had to reply and ask him what was going on.

After hanging up the phone over there, Mr. Wu immediately called Yan Chaozong to discuss what was going on. After all, they were allies, and he couldn't be the only one to take responsibility if something happened.

However, after Yan Chaozong came back to his senses, he told Third Master Wu the news that his second uncle also had an accident tonight, especially after he was in the hospital and his second uncle was being rescued. Wu Sanye didn't speak for a long time.

Yan Chaozong didn't care about these things now, he hung up the phone directly, and sat alone in the lounge of the hospital, thinking about the ins and outs of the whole thing, and what might happen next.

It was no accident that the calm sea suddenly turned violent after Qin Sheng came back from Hangzhou. Of course, it was also their fault that they moved Bao Fan and made Qin Sheng go berserk.

"Third Master, what's the matter?" Chu Sikong, who was standing next to Wu Sanye, couldn't help asking when he found Wu Sanye's rare appearance like this.

Mr. Wu was also thinking deeply at this meeting. First, the old monk suddenly attacked him. His backyard was on fire and he had no time to take care of Shanghai, so he could only transfer human resources back to Zhejiang.Immediately afterwards tonight, Yan's second child and Xue Ke and Gu Yongning had an accident at the same time, which shocked everyone. This one after another made him have to think more.

Qin Sheng, there is no one else but Qin Sheng, it must be Qin Sheng, otherwise, how could it be such a coincidence? Wu Sanye and Yan Chaozong thought the same, that is why Qin Sheng suddenly dared to be so unscrupulous? Where did he come from for his confidence and strength? Is he really not afraid?

"Sikong, we might be on the wrong team" Wu Sanye muttered to himself, this is what he is most worried about, if he is really on the wrong team, the price to pay will definitely be heavy, after all he has offended him before Qin Sheng.

Then Mr. Wu had to reconsider what to do next, and went all the way to the dark, that is, no matter what the result was, he had to be tied to the Yan family and the Xue family and the Gu family.Another option is to stop the loss in time and reconcile with Qin Sheng. No matter what the price is, even if he completely offends the Yan family, the Xue family and the Gu family, he will not hesitate.

why do you think so

Because Mr. Wu doesn't think that what happened tonight is just Qin Sheng's idea. He doesn't believe that there is no Qin family's intention behind Qin Sheng. If there is no Qin family's statement, would Qin Sheng have the guts?

If the Qin family really meant it, it means that the Qin family may have passed the crisis, so they dared to fight back so strongly.

Wu Sanye didn't dare to make a decision casually, he wanted to wait, for example, to see how the Yan family and the Xue family and Gu family responded, for example, after seeing the situation clearly.

In any case, what Sanye Wu can be sure of is that after this incident, the situation will be very clear.

Perhaps even Qin Sheng didn't know about it, but Third Master Wu guessed some of the things right by mistake. For example, this time there was really a statement from the Qin family, and the statement from the Qin family was naturally Qin Changan's statement.

When Qin Sheng was about to do this, Bao Fan had already told Qin Chang'an about Qin Sheng's plan. He had to let Qin Chang'an check it out, otherwise he would really make a fool out of him. Bao Fan didn't have the ability to wipe Qin Sheng's ass.If Qin Changan stopped him, Bao Fan would also tell Qin Sheng what Qin Changan meant.

However, Qin Changan didn't stop it, which is interesting.

Chapter 748

The relationship between Qin Sheng and Qin Changan is very strange. Most of the things are not communicated directly, but conveyed by other people. One of the reasons why where is so important.

Qin Changan never interfered with what Qin Sheng should do. It was determined by Qin Sheng's freedom and ability. As long as Qin Sheng dared to make trouble, as long as it was within the scope of his ability, Qin Changan could handle it. Unless this range is exceeded, Qin Changan will let Bao Fan inform Qin Sheng that enough is enough.

It's a pity that what Qin Sheng did this time did not go beyond the scope defined by Qin Chang'an. That's why Qin Chang'an didn't stop him. Wasn't it just the Yan family, the Xue family and the Gu family?What a big deal, when the Qin family was at its peak two years ago, it was so beautiful, they didn't pay attention to these people at all, and they didn't even dare to challenge the Qin family.

Now, it's really a tiger in Pingyang being bullied by a dog. With the support of those big bosses behind him, you think you can humiliate the Qin family at will?He really took himself too seriously, and he also took the forces behind him too seriously.

Therefore, when Qin Sheng did this tonight, Qin Changan not only did not stop him, but also boasted in his heart that this is the descendant of our Qin family, and this is the courage of the descendants of the Qin family.

This night was indeed a bit chaotic. Qin Sheng's sudden counterattack disrupted the rhythm of many people and caused many authorities to start guessing wildly, including Wu Sanye and the Yan family. After the son had an accident, he immediately sent people to Shanghai to solve the problem.

At the same time, the Xue family has communicated with the forces behind it, discussing the possible impact of this matter, and what is the situation of the Qin family?Only in this way can we determine what they should do in Shanghai?

This night passed like this. Many people did not fall asleep this night. Our instigator hugged his wife but slept in the dark. He didn't get up until eight o'clock to go to the company, while waiting for the attitude of all parties.

As for Chang Baji and Yang Daniu who came back after finishing their work last night, Qin Sheng asked them to rest for two days, so that they would not have to show their faces in these two days, but Bao Fan might have a hard time, he had to help Qin Sheng keep an eye on them. The entire situation to react at any time.

At dawn, Mr. Wu, who had been in Hangzhou for many days, also quietly left Shanghai with Chu Sikong, Yang Deng and others because of the matter of the old monk, and returned to Hangzhou. Another reason why Mr. Wu did this was naturally Avoid the limelight in Shanghai and wait until the situation is a little clearer before making a decision.

In short, Mr. Wu somewhat regretted the impulsive decision he made at the beginning. He took returning to Shanghai too seriously, so he directly rejected Qin Sheng and chose the Yan family.At that time, I should have considered it carefully and made a trade-off without considering the factor of Shanghai.

It has to be said that the sudden attack on the old monk's side completely disrupted all the plans of Mr. Wu's side.

In a certain hospital in downtown Shanghai, Xue Ke and Gu Yongning’s surgery has ended, and their lives are not in danger, but they need to rest in bed for more than half a year, especially since both of them have broken their legs and want to get out of bed.

It's slower.

The one sent by the Xue family is Xue Ke's cousin, a dude who is more promising than Xue Ke, and now he is a department-level cadre with real power in a certain ministry, and the one sent by the Gu family is Gu Yongning's My dear sister is now the managing director of the Gu Family Group. You must know that even Gu Yongning is not qualified to join the board of directors, which shows how strong this strong woman is.

The operation that lasted ten hours was finally over, not to mention that the doctors and nurses were exhausted, and everyone waiting outside was also exhausted.

Gu Yongning's older sister is Gu Yu, who is almost forty now, but she looks like 27 or 27 years old. Who knows that as long as the society is willing to spend money on maintenance, forty looks like [-] or [-], but it looks like [-] Is it normal to look like forty?

Gu Yu wore a Givenchy suit, she looked like a noble lady from the way she was dressed, from the inside to the outside, it was full of jewels, and any piece of jewelry was a limited edition that cost tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands, etc. The Gu family really has it money.

Gu Yu loves this younger brother very much. After such a big incident, her heart was cut like a knife, and she was out of her mind all night. It was not until the doctor said that her life was not in danger after the operation that she was completely relieved.

Compared to Gu Yu, Xue Ke's cousin, Xue Ping, is calmer. He has long known his cousin's style of doing things, and it's only a matter of time before something happens, so it's his own fault.

After dawn, Gu Yu asked with a very ugly face, "What does your family say?"

"As long as the person is fine, we'll talk about the rest later." Xue Ping casually said as he rolled his eyes at this very tasteful young woman, and didn't really take her seriously just because she was the daughter of the Gu family.

Gu Yu, who has a good appearance and knows how to take care of herself, thinks she is a beauty, but from last night to now, Xue Ping has not looked at her a few times, which makes Gu Yu somewhat disappointed, which woman Isn't that so?

"That's all?" Gu Yu sneered.

Xue Ping didn't want to say too much. Although Xue and Gu had a good personal relationship, he and Gu Yu hadn't had much contact, that is, they had only met a few times when they were walking around. After all, Xue Ping's ambitions were all in his official career. Get involved in these right and wrong.

Xue Ping said without raising his head, "Wait for the results of the police investigation. It seems that they provoked first, and I can't blame others."

Xue Ping didn't come here for revenge, his father just asked him to come over to stabilize the situation, so Xue Ping didn't want to worry about too many things.As for the Gu family, it is completely based on the Xue family's leadership. Of course, Gu Yu has to discuss with Xue Ke how to deal with this matter, but Xue Ping has such an attitude

"You just believe it. Don't you know what they two came to Shanghai for? Xue Ping, are you afraid of the Qin family?" Since Xue Ping had such an attitude, Gu Yu didn't have to worry about face anymore, and said strangely.

Only then did Xue Ping raise his head and said, "Okay, then tell me what to do first?"

"Okay, Xue Ping, you are really interesting, I really know you," Gu Yu said in a bad tone.

After finishing speaking, Gu Yu left the hospital directly. As for the hospital, of course she had already made arrangements, and she would be notified as soon as there was any news, and of course she would not just let it go.

In the private hospital in Sheshan, Second Uncle Yan’s surgery has already ended. Compared to Xue Ke and Gu Yongning’s injuries, Yan’s

The second uncle is a little more gentle, that is, a few broken ribs, but it will take a long time to cultivate.

About how to release the news to the outside world, Yan Chaozong and several people in charge of the Yan family have already discussed, saying that the second uncle's relapse needs to be recuperated in the hospital for a period of time, and all the company's affairs will be handled by Yan Chaozong, the managing director.

Yan Chaozong stayed up all night, thinking deeply about the deeper meaning behind this matter, etc. He has already brought Hu Lan back, and there is no need to track down who the murderer is. He really can't think of anyone else besides Qin Sheng. , should Hu Lan lead someone to kill Qin Sheng directly now?

Yan Chaozong already knew that the Xue family and the Gu family had sent people to Shanghai, but he didn't take the initiative to contact him. He waited for the Xue family and the Gu family to come to him. He wanted to see how the Xue family and the Gu family would deal with this matter. How will they respond? This is the time to really test the relationship between allies.

Although Yan Chaozong is in charge of the company's affairs now, he doesn't need to worry about Yan Chaozong at all. After all, there are management to deal with things, and in the end there may only be a few things that require him to come forward.But Yan Chaozong had to worry about other things. Fortunately, Hu Lan and Feng He cooperated with him.

The news of the second uncle's accident is still under blockade, and no one else knows except what should be known. If it becomes known, the Yan family will be in trouble at that time.

Taking a step back, although Grandpa asked him to deal with this matter, Second Uncle is not in danger and will wake up in a few days. Yan Chaozong did not dare to make a decision lightly, and must wait for Second Uncle to wake up before discussing countermeasures .

Therefore, whether it is the Xue family, the Gu family or the Yan family, it will be very peaceful during this period of time, but the more peaceful it is, the greater the turmoil behind it.

In the lounge of the private hospital, Hu Lan walked in with Feng He, and Feng He truthfully reported, "Master, I have asked Qian Tong and his apprentice to protect the old man on Sheshan, and your parents have also arranged four bodyguards. Do you see any other arrangements?"

"Well, I know, others don't need it," Yan Chaozong said casually.

Feng He continued, "Also, I have received news that Mr. Wu has taken people to leave Shanghai and return to Hangzhou this morning. I don't think he will return to Shanghai in a short time."

Yan Chaozong was silent for a moment and then sneered, "This old fox is really cunning. He chose to leave Shanghai at this time. It seems that he is in a hurry to go back to deal with the matter with the old monk. In fact, it is not to avoid the limelight. The old fox is an old fox. Sitting on the mountain and watching the tiger Fight"

Although Wu Sanye did this, Yan Chaozong couldn't do anything to him. After all, Wu Sanye had a reasonable reason, so now Yan Chaozong didn't bother to pay attention to him, and in a short time, the Yan family and the Xue family and the Gu family should not There will be big movements.

After talking about these two important matters, Yan Chaozong arranged other things for Feng He and Hu Lan, that is, to keep an eye on Qin Sheng's side, to keep an eye on Qin Sheng, and to know all Qin Sheng's movements, such as going to Where did I meet, etc., this is related to the judgment of many things in the future.

Just when Feng He and Hu Lan were about to leave, the bodyguards of Yan's family knocked on the door and came in to report, "Master, there is a lady outside who wants to see you, she said her name is Gu Yu, Gu Yongning's sister, can you see me?"

After Yan Chaozong heard the name, his eyes lit up instantly. He didn't expect the reaction there to be so fast?

Chapter 749 A little surprise

Wu Sanye avoided returning to Hangzhou, the Xue family chose to remain silent for the time being, and the Yan family waited for Second Uncle Yan to wake up. Only the Gu family couldn't wait, or maybe Gu Yu loved his younger brother so much, that they were so anxious to express their anger.

Of course, Yan Chaozong didn't know the Xue family's attitude. He thought that the Xue family and the Gu family had the same attitude, and Gu Yu represented the attitude of the Xue family and the Gu family, so he was very happy to hear that the Gu family came to him.

After Yan Chaozong nodded in agreement, the bodyguards brought Gu Yu into the lounge not long after. The two bodyguards of the Gu family were stopped outside. Gu Yu frowned slightly but was not angry, and signaled them to stay outside. She walked into the lounge with graceful steps, but she looked a little repulsive, like those who came from old Beijing.

Yan Chaozong did not expect that the person who came in would be a beautiful woman, a young woman who looked very tasteful, especially the posture when walking, which really made men dream about, Gu Yongning still has such a sister.

However, Yan Chaozong is not an animal that thinks about life from the lower body. He stood up and greeted him very naturally, "I didn't expect Miss Gu to visit in person. It's really surprising."

Gu Yu's face was cold, and he didn't seem to take Yan Chaozong seriously. Seeing that there were other people in the lounge, he stared displeasedly, the meaning was obvious.Yan Chaozong waved his hand to signal Hu Lan and Feng He to go out first, obviously Gu Yu had something to say to him, of course he was happy to chat.

After everyone left, only Gu Yu and Yan Chaozong were left in the lounge. Gu Yu stepped on high heels and walked around the lounge twice. The sound of the high heels clicked very rhythmically, and she seemed not in a hurry to speak.

Yan Chaozong also held it very firmly. If you don’t talk, I won’t say anything. Let’s see who can’t help it first. When he has nothing to do, he looks at this beautiful young woman. Her coiled hair makes her very temperamental, and her figure is even more maintainable. She is graceful and stylish, and even the posture of carrying the bag is very unique.

As for those clothes and jewelry, etc., Yan Chaozong was not surprised. The Gu family has such capital, but for some women, these collocations are a plus, but for some women, these things are disgusting. It all depends on a woman's appearance and temperament.

"Tsk tsk tsk, I didn't expect Mr. Yan to be so calm after such a big incident happened to the Yan family. Could it be that Mr. Yan is so impatient to take over?" Gu Yu, as the managing director of the Gu family group, can do this key Position, if you say you have no ability, who will believe it?What's more, it's a woman, so Gu Yu knows how to confront Yan Chaozong, which is full of gunpowder.

The same is true for Yan Chaozong. The two have similar status in the family, except that Yan Chaozong is the future successor of the Yan family, and Gu Yu is just a woman. No matter how powerful she is, she is just assisting Gu Yongning.

"I didn't expect that such a big incident happened to the Gu family. Miss Gu was not in the hospital to take care of her younger brother, so she would come to Sheshan to tease me in such a good mood?" Yan Chaozong responded tit for tat. Yan Chaozong likes beautiful women, but I don't like this kind of strong woman, unless her performance on the bed satisfies him enough, otherwise such a woman is really boring.

Gu Yu found a random place to sit down, crossed her legs gracefully, folded her hands on her thighs, and snorted coldly, "It is because I care about this younger brother that I am willing to come to you, or do you think I have this elegance? "

"Oh, if that's the case, then Miss Gu, don't be a fool. I'm too tired, why don't you just ask me for what?" Yan Chaozong shook his head and smiled wryly.

Gu Yu said with a livid face, "The Qin family is so unscrupulous, your Yan family is going to swallow your anger

?You, Yan Chaozong, don't plan to ask your second uncle out of this tone? "

Yan Chaozong asked back, "Miss Gu, how do you know that this is what the Qin family did?"

"Yan Chaozong, I thought you were very good, but unfortunately you really let me down. It turns out that your Yan family is also a coward. The heads of your Yan family were all injured and hospitalized, but the Yan family didn't even dare to fart." Let it go, I thought the Yan family was so powerful." Gu Yu said sarcastically, saying such vitriolic words is her forte, and the others are definitely no match.

Yan Chaozong was unmoved, so there was no need to quarrel with women. Women have an advantage in this kind of thing. Gu Yu's ability to take the initiative to find him shows that the Gu family can't sit still, so he naturally has the advantage.

"You still ask me how do I know it was the Qin family? Who do you think would dare to do this except the Qin family? One night almost at the same time, all three of our families had accidents. Do you think there is such a coincidence? It's not the Qin family, then tell me Who am I?" Gu Yu said in the end that her voice was already very loud, almost questioning Yan Chaozong.

Yan Chaozong said unhurriedly, "Oh, even if the Qin family did it, what should I do? The Qin family is far away in Beijing, and there is a towering tree. Even if our Yan family wants to attack the Qin family, it will be beyond our reach. The Qin family is here There is only one Qin Sheng in Shanghai, should I send someone to kill Qin Sheng now? Then do you know who Qin Sheng’s little uncle is? If our Yan family moves Qin Sheng in Shanghai, do we still want to stay in Shanghai messed up?"

"You..." Gu Yu was left speechless by Yan Chaozong, not to mention that what Yan Chaozong said was indeed the truth, he had already figured out everything last night, so he didn't dare to act rashly.

At this time, Yan Chaozong finally understood. He reckoned that it must be Gu Yu who came to him today, not the Gu family or the Xue family. They are not so impulsive, let alone so stupid. Because things are not that simple.

Yan Chaozong could also understand that Gu Yu probably loved her brother so much that he was so straightforward. He smiled and said, "Miss Gu, I guess you must have looked for the Xue family. The Xue family should not be your business, you I just came to see our Yan family, thinking that our Yan family is a local snake in Shanghai, and such a big incident happened, there must be a response, right? If you came to me directly last night, I might not say anything I will send someone to kill Qin Sheng if I don’t say anything, but now I have figured it out, these things are beyond our ability, and several seniors must be combined, so before my second uncle wakes up, I will not act rashly at all So, Miss Gu, I'm sorry, I let you come here for nothing today."

Gu Yu really underestimated Yan Chaozong. After hearing Yan Chaozong's words, Gu Yu was so angry that she stood up without hesitation, pointed at Yan Chaozong and said, "Yan Chaozong, you are a coward, you I'm so disappointed, your Yan family is nothing more than that."

Yan Chaozong said cheerfully, "Miss Gu, in fact, when you are angry, you look quite good-looking. I don't know if anyone has said that?"