Hammer of Technology
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"Hey, Lao Zhong, I suddenly thought of something. Tell me, should we recommend Ning Wei's achievements?... What do you recommend? What else can you recommend? Of course, it is recommended to become an academician... This is also It’s just that the new regulations require the recommendees to be recommended by at least three academicians and two from the department, otherwise I wouldn’t even bother to call you…”
"What? It's too early? Still too young? I said Lao Zhong, think about it, he is that shameless student of Lao Tian! Do you think Lao Tian will give us a chance when he graduates with a Ph.D.? The department can’t get a few people to come? That’s what I thought, we still have to say hello to a few friends from the engineering department, and the favorability must be raised first, right?”
"Yes, yes, both of us will give recommendations first. I have already opened the supplementary system and am about to start writing electronic recommendations. We have to pull people into our camp first. Whether it succeeds or fails, that child has to read it We are good, right? In the future, if you invite him to come to the institute to teach, guide, or focus a little bit, you are ashamed to speak up, right?"
"That's what it means. Don't look at him developing this chip. Remember that he just won the Chern Mathematics Prize and the Wolf Mathematics Prize last year! Don't you know about Lao Tian? It must have been arranged. Let's It’s just to catch people by surprise! Okay, then it’s settled, you write a recommendation letter quickly, and by the way, find a few more people in your institute to recommend, and I’ll also find a few friends here, and I’ll get in touch with the engineering institute.”
"Yeah, okay, don't spread the word beforehand, lest Lao Tian know and take action. Think about it, if it succeeds, Lao Tian is an academician, and Ning Wei is also an academician. I think that old guy still has the nerve to continue to be Ning Not for the teacher! That's it for now! Hang up!"
Fu Zhou, who was eavesdropping at the door, was already stunned.
I have to say that my tutor's brain is big enough.
Not only did he get a vote to recommend Ning Wei as a candidate academician of the Huaxia Academy of Sciences this year, but he also planned to ask friends from the Huaxia Academy of Engineering to recommend Ning Wei as an academician of the Chinese Academy of Engineering?If it succeeds, would it be a 24-year-old academician of the two academies?
At this moment, the scene of academicians meeting involuntarily appeared in Fu Zhou's mind.Looking around, most of them are big men in their 60s, and a 24-year-old young man hides among them. What a cool scene.The sense of substitution is extremely strong and refreshing. The only problem is that it is a pity that the protagonist is not him.
What's even more frightening is that this is just to steal people. It is conceivable that Ning Wei's current achievements in mathematics will have no problem in evaluating an academician of the Department of Mathematics and Physics of the Academy of Sciences in the future.
Thinking about it, Fu Zhou suddenly wanted to cry.
Why is there such a big gap between people?That Dr. Ning probably never thought that he could apply for an academician at such a young age, and a bunch of bosses helped him think of it first!Thinking of how fierce the competition for the number of academicians is every year, people are almost old enough to sharpen their heads and want to get in, but this one is useless. Not only did some people take the initiative to build the steps, but some people wanted to directly carry him up. ...
But then again, who really wants to achieve Ningwei's achievement, and who doesn't want to fight for it?If Ning Wei knew what his mentor was doing for him, he would probably be really moved, right?
……
It was obvious that Fu Zhou had lost his mind.
If Ning Wei knew about this at this time, there is a high probability that he would not feel too moved, but would only find it troublesome.It seems that there is already a commotion on the Internet at this time.But I really can't blame the netizens, because the news he revealed in his acceptance speech is really amazing.
The original 180nm process is directly advanced to 65nm at every turn, which is really against the sky!You must know that children in kindergartens know that things should be done step by step, and building blocks must have a solid foundation in order to pile higher.
Although 90.00% of people on the Internet have not even figured out what the cnmd architecture is, what equipment is needed for the so-called three-dimensional silicon-through-tube chip technology, and how to prepare a high-purity carbon nanotube solution , and how carbon nanotubes are arranged to achieve the performance required by the chip. After all, these technical details have not been released through channels so far.
But many people know how to look up information, find ready-made clues to find, and then popularize science!
For example, in 2001, the chip manufacturing process at that time was 130 nanometers, and Intel's representative product at that time was the Pentium 3 processor.Three years later, in 2004, it was the first year of 90nm. In that year, the Pentium 4 processor took the lead in adopting the 90nm manufacturing process. At that time, Intel, Infineon, Texas Instruments, IBM, and UMC and Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., Ltd. Electricity presumably synchronizes with this technology.It was not until 2006 that Intel and AMD launched 65nm manufacturing technology.
In other words, looking back at the development history of silicon chips, it took the world five years to advance the chip manufacturing process from 130 nanometers to 65 nanometers.And this progress is not only the history of chip manufacturing process progress. In 2002, an engineer of TSMC proposed the concept of wet method, which made the lithography machine technology break through from the dry lithography machine to the immersion lithography machine. In 2004, TSMC and ASML jointly developed the first-generation immersion lithography machine, which pushed the chip manufacturing process forward by an era.
Now switch to Ning Wei, from the last time he appeared on the CCTV news, let the people of the whole country know that a Ph.D. The speech at the ceremony claimed that the new chip process has been broken to 65 nanometers, and it is less than a month.
This is enough to make most people feel incredible, what is the situation?Or under what circumstances can it take less than a month for a new technology to complete the technological leap that took the world five years to complete?Didn't we say that technology is mainly based on accumulation?
What's even more frightening is that the related instruments and equipment for making this new chip have never heard of any innovations?Which company is producing the equipment for this new chip?Is there a listing?These questions were all raised.Was Ning Wei's speech even nonsense?These questions are being asked online.
The last time this new structure was released, it was reported on CCTV news on the same day. Yesterday, Ning Wei claimed to have broken through the 65nm process. Is there any test results to support it?
It can't be said that netizens are very curious. After all, many personnel in the industry have doubts about Ningwei's words, not to mention that there are still many netizens who are waiting for a series of news announcements to buy potential stocks in the future.
After all, it is a new technology that has been reported by the central media, and the national treasure-level academician platform of the Chinese Academy of Sciences will inevitably focus on the development of related industries in the future.At this time, the exposure of the upstream and downstream supply chain of the new chip is enough to ignite the enthusiasm of all Huaxia shareholders.People in the financial circle have analyzed it. The most conservative estimate is that the stock prices of those companies involved in the new semiconductor manufacturing industry chain in the future will rise three to five times in a short period of time, which is not a problem at all.
Especially when Ningwei claims to have solved the 65nm process, the continuous stock price rise of such companies is almost a certainty.The analysis of people in the financial circle this time is quite reliable. At present, the stock prices of domestic listed companies related to the manufacture and production of carbon nanotubes have collectively ushered in a one-day rise.That is to say, when Ningwei spoke on Saturday night, the market was still closed the next day, but it is foreseeable that Ningwei’s words are a serious positive for related industries. The stock price is estimated to be able to rise directly again...
This means that there is no camera in Ningwei's office. Otherwise, the pictures and conversations he had with the president of Intel on Sunday morning would be uploaded to the Internet, which would be another major benefit for the entire leading company in the semiconductor industry in China.
So at this time, the discussion on the Internet is not limited to technology enthusiasts, or ordinary people's concern for China's technological progress, but also involves the economic interests of many people.All kinds of gossip have begun to spread crazily on the Internet, such as who provided the equipment for Ningwei's research chip laboratory, and the engineers of this company worked overtime for several weeks in a row, just to meet the technical standards proposed by Ningwei, or Whoever provided the silicon substrate material for the production of this chip, took the path of bidding and purchasing...
Regardless of the fact that some semiconductor companies are actually mainly engaged in LED...
Of course, some people say that all the equipment in the laboratory is actually imported from Europe, the United States and other high-end equipment and equipment manufacturing powerhouses. All the gossip is to deceive people into the game...
All these are just gossip, after all, so far no listed company has really announced these major good news on its official website.People outside are very confused about this. Most people in the industry understand that either some unlisted companies completed the supply of equipment, or directly signed a non-disclosure agreement when purchasing directly. Can not disclose any information to the outside world.
But no matter what, for these professionals, many people look forward to getting an accurate news, which will help them make more accurate judgments on the market.After all, semiconductors are the hottest sector recently, especially during the period when the official business department and the science and technology department jointly issued preferential policies on promoting new semiconductors to the market, most fund managers and investors focused on those semiconductor-related industries. .
The specific manifestation of its popularity is that not only on various knowledge-based platforms, related issues are directly on the top of the hot search, and the popularity on various social media is also extremely terrifying.
For example, on Zhihu, "Ning Wei announced at the Wolf Award ceremony that his self-developed three-dimensional silicon-through-silicon tube chip technology (cnmd structure) has reached a 65-nanometer process. Is this announcement credible? Technology has really begun to show leaps and bounds. Is it trending?" Three hours after asking this question, it has directly occupied the first place in the 24-hour hot search list, with a popularity of 7300 million, while No.2's popularity is only 1600 million.
At the same time, #宁为cnmd Structure Chip Manufacturing Process Rapidly Upgraded Authenticity Doubts on Weibo also ranked first in the hot search list, reaching 2.8 million at one point, far surpassing No.2.This platform, which was once famous for chasing stars, suddenly became a big V without knowing a little bit of technology theory, and felt ashamed to go out and say hello to people.
If you open Qiandu's hot search index ranking, you will find that "three-dimensional silicon through tube chip technology", "the difference between 180nm process and 65nm process", "the history of the world's chip manufacturing process", "Ningwei" and "cnmd structure" have all become Internet For hot words, the number of searches is in the unit of [-] million.
As for some more professional forums, let alone, such as electronic enthusiasts, after opening it, you will find at least ten pages, almost all of which are about new manufacturing processes, with occasional interspersed with some about drones and robots. , VR discussion...
Even players in many well-known game forums have begun to discuss whether the breakthrough in the new chip manufacturing process is true or not, and if it is true, what changes will it bring to the Chinese game industry...
There are also various other channels such as discussions in the circle of friends, various public account topic related indexes, stock bar discussion indexes, etc... If you dig deeper, you will find that the four Chinese people, cnmd, are very friendly English abbreviations. It has become a hot spot for the whole people, and now the uncle who goes to the street to buy vegetables will not think of the four letters cnmd as a curse...
Of course, there are also reverse jokes. For example, in a certain nonsense big V comment area, many people began to copy and paste such a sentence: "I will popularize scientific knowledge for you, do you know what the latest chip structure is named? Tell you: cnmd!"
Really, apart from the Nobel month, it is hard to see that science and technology has become a hot topic among the people, but Ning Wei has done it now, without even using large official media, and just announced it casually at an awards ceremony in order to get a night of freedom Just a message.
Some professors who study communication have even begun to record this case, and plan to use it as a topic for targeted research, and it can even be used as a final topic for undergraduate graduates.After all, every phenomenon-level fission of information dissemination has its internal logic to be dug.
As for the Intel 12 series that was hotly discussed the day before...
Um?What is that? !
Finally, under the expectation of everyone on the Internet, a very brief latest news was posted on the website of Huaxia Academy of Sciences.
"After testing and verification by experts from the Institute of Semiconductors of our institute, the standards of the 65nm cnmd structure RF chip provided by Huaxia Frontier Intelligent Technology Research and Development Center far exceed various international standards, and the performance greatly exceeds similar international products. It is understood that , The three-dimensional 65nm manufacturing process has basically reached the mass production conditions."
Soon, several official Weibo accounts of Huaxia reposted this news, and all kinds of big Vs also came out after hearing the news, and began to interpret the news word by word.Generally speaking, the fewer words in an official message, the bigger the message, and the more serious the interpretation.
For example, what does "the 65nm cnmd structure RF chip provided" explain?It shows that what Ningwei announced is not just theoretical, but that the kitten in March has been rubbed out directly...
Another example is the sentence "Basically meet the mass production conditions". The word "Basic" has a rich meaning, but if combined with the 65nm process, it is enough to push back a little bit, at least the 180nm manufacturing that is on par with the world-class RF chips Technology, mass production is no problem at all, as for 65nm used to make radio frequency chips?Is this crazy?People's traditional silicon chips only use a 90-nanometer process.
So everyone knows what the 65nm manufacturing process will be used for in the future!
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290 Van Gogh
For Ning Wei, all discussions on the Internet are just floating clouds.
The experience of developing minimalist eda has given him a firm grasp of what he is good at and what he is not good at.He will not devote too much energy to everything that is not his phased main line research task.
His most important task now remains unchanged, which is to study artificial intelligence, and build and create a set of mathematical theories and application methods suitable for future artificial intelligence in March.Advance the development of artificial intelligence by researching more relevant mathematical tools.
All the results in the course of conducting this research can be said to be incidental gains of an additive nature.
So he studied the ns equation and proposed that after Ningwei space researched the turbulence algorithm, he gave up continuing to study this direction and continued to solve those trivial problems, and finally proved that the ns equation is smooth and has a unique solution.
After making the minimalist eda have practical value, let it go, let the laboratory cooperate with Huawei, and continue to dig deeper into the value of this eda software.
The same is true in the field of semiconductors now.Now that he has found a new material that can replace the previous silicon-based chip, designed a new structure, and proved that the new material and new structure are indeed feasible, his task has been completed.
The next step is to use this technology to continue to make radio frequency chips, whether it is used to design CPUs or GPUs, that is none of his business.The complete manufacturing process has been recorded in the laboratory's mainframe and March's background.How to deal with it specifically, how to authorize the technology to the outside world, that is the business of Chen Mingcai or the people behind Chen Mingcai.
At most, he will put forward some reference opinions. For example, if the cooperation with Huawei is quite pleasant, then Huawei can give priority to this kind of architecture authorization, and even give a lower authorization price.
If Intel wants to authorize, the R&D center also thinks it can be negotiated. He can raise some prices or add some conditions on the grounds that someone stepped into his office with his left foot first.As for subsequent research, upgrades, or new chips for the cnmd architecture, Ning Wei believes that it should be handed over to the market.
It is enough to let these manufacturers see hope.It's okay to say that the radio frequency chip, after all, the structure and principle are very simple, it is nothing more than the assembly of those amplifiers, receivers and other components.But if it involves cpu and gpu, it will be very troublesome, especially in the current multi-core cpu, there are no tens of thousands of researchers to solve each small problem, to study the instruction set, and to ensure the profits of upstream and downstream manufacturers, so that They are willing to adapt to the new structure chip, and it is impossible to replace the existing Intel plus Microsoft model.
Ning Wei has asked himself, he is actually not good at all of the above.The only thing he is good at in the business field is to send the various business development mathematical models built in March to the senior management of the partners, such as Yan Ming, such as Chen Mingcai, to provide some reference for their decision-making.
His most important task is to build the field of artificial intelligence.As for winning the Wolf Award, the title of the father of the [-]D chip sounds quite interesting, but it's fine.It doesn't even matter whether he is evaluated as an academician now, anyway, his achievements are there, and when it's time to be admitted, he should be admitted naturally.
If his thoughts really let some people know, they will probably be so angry that their scalps will explode.
After all, it is unacceptable that something that I have studied for a lifetime is so out of Ningwei's eyes, and even just done it casually.It's like, everyone can admit that it's better than Ningwei, but it's hard to admit that I have wasted countless efforts, but it can't be worth what others do casually, and I still make it, and I don't even think about continuing to be a leader in this area.
This is really embarrassing.Of course, if Tian Yanzhen knows what Ning Wei thinks in his heart, he will probably be very happy.In his eyes, the child who doesn't agree with his identity as a mathematician, in fact, still wants to do things in the direction of mathematics research, but it's not so obvious, which is of course a good thing.
But no matter how much discussion there is around him, Ning Wei feels that his original intention after arriving at Yanbei University has not changed, and he has embarked on a path that no one has ever taken before in the field of artificial intelligence.Ningwei always feels that there is still a lot to do in this area.
Don't look at the fact that March's performance is already miraculous in the eyes of the world, but Ning Wei feels that this is just the beginning.
A truly completed body of artificial intelligence has infinite possibilities for evolution, instead of only doing some resource integration work like the current March.It should also be able to adapt to more scenarios when communicating directly with people.
In fact, the deeper the theoretical research, the more Ning Wei became dissatisfied with the current level of intelligence in March.Of course, this can be understood as the persistence of an academic person, and it can also be understood that every old father hopes that his children will be smarter, preferably the smartest children in the world.
So it is easy to forget the time when you really devote yourself to academic research.
It wasn't until classmate Jiang called to ask him whether he would go home for dinner or send him a meal, that Ning Wei realized that his day had passed so simply.
"Of course I'm going back to eat. I'll just pack up and be home in 10 minutes!" Ning Wei replied very positively.
After packing up his things, he walked out of the office, and saw Liu Wei was already waiting for him at the steps.This point must be admired by Liu Wei, who can grasp the timing just right every time, just walking and chatting.
"Why don't you go to my house for dinner today? Chenshuang said that my mother made her best braised salmon, which is worth trying." Ning Wei extended an invitation to Liu Wei.
Liu Wei hesitated for a moment, but finally shook her head and said, "Forget it, it's not good to bother your house all the time."
"What are you thinking? We are two men who depend on each other for life and death now, and you think going to my house for a meal is an interruption? Let me tell you, let alone a meal, that's just not auspicious, otherwise my mother would want to take it You confess, not to mention my dad is here, every day I look forward to someone going to drink with him, you know, I don't like drinking." Ning Wei curled his lips, showing disdain for Liu Wei's politeness Gu.
Well, this is a doctor of science... Liu Wei can only comfort herself in this way in her heart.Otherwise, it would be really impossible for him to adapt to Ning Wei's style of conversation, such as using life and death to describe the relationship between the two, although it sounds like there is nothing wrong, but I feel that there is something wrong.
And... what is confession?
"Okay, let me tell you the truth. In fact, my mother asked you to go today because of important things. Isn't this the Wolff Awards Ceremony already finished? My mother said before that they came to the capital this time, except Look at classmate Jiang, besides staying with us for a new year, there is another important thing to do is to take me to classmate Jiang's mother, and make a decision about me and classmate Jiang. So it's better to ask you how to arrange the itinerary " Ning Wei said, spreading his hands.
After hearing this, Liu Wei felt dumbfounded, and immediately began to explain: "Dr. Ning..."
"Well, I'll call you Brother Liu, and you can call me Xiao Ning from now on. Don't call me Doctor, it seems extravagant." Ning Wei interrupted Liu Wei, waved his hand and said angrily.
Liu Wei made up her mind and did enough psychological construction before she said with a wry smile: "Then, Xiao... Ning, your mother may have misunderstood, but in fact, you don't need to discuss your itinerary with me. You can decide on your own, as long as you and those old people After discussing with the professor, the time can be arranged, and I will help you arrange all other things."
Hearing this, Ning Wei was a little proud.Sure enough, to be a human being, you still have to compare your heart with your heart. He treats Liu Wei as one of his own, and their service has also been upgraded. In the past, they only protected his arrangements, but now they can arrange everything directly.There is a high probability that Ning Wei did not expect it. This may also be because his status is becoming more and more important, and even Liu Wei's authority is getting bigger and bigger, and there are more and more people who can be mobilized and things arranged...
It sounds a bit realistic, but whether it’s artificial intelligence or designing it by yourself, a scientist who can create a new architecture chip in a laboratory is not treated the same as a mathematician who only studied artificial intelligence before. Yes, it's simply an upgrade.Not to mention that this scientist can upgrade the chip manufacturing technology to an astonishing level in a month.
"Discuss with the old professor? I'll just ask Lao Tian for a vacation later. I plan to pick a weekend to go back in the near future. In fact, I don't care. The key is to consider the time of Chenshuang. My mother said that her class should not be delayed. There are too many." Ning Wei rambled.
"Oh! But I heard that some professors hope that you can go to various research institutes to give lectures to the doctoral students there, mainly about artificial intelligence theory and chip technology." Liu Wei said truthfully.
"Don't go!" Ning Wei said decisively: "Why did you go? It's useless to teach for one or two days. The key is that they don't understand. Really, I have experience in this area. I have participated in two lectures. At the World Computer Conference, every time I give a report on the rostrum, if you look at the discussions on social platforms, it can kill people, and few people really understand it.”
Liu Wei was silent, he was not good at commenting on this aspect, because he couldn't understand either.
Ning Wei continued: "When it comes to lectures, it must be a systematic study. Really, I think it is not suitable for doctoral students to study again. The things they have accepted before are too complicated, and many things have already formed a mindset. It will take more time and energy to give it to others, so it is better to teach some outstanding undergraduate graduates in the future, who are as old as blank paper, younger and easier to accept new knowledge systems."
Liu Wei felt that Ning Wei was probably boasting, but he had no proof.Because he can even recite Ning Wei's resume verbatim, he clearly remembers that it has only been more than a year since Ning Wei graduated from university.
Fortunately, he has already gotten used to it. Anyway, this yard is full of people who have carved Versailles into their buttocks. His hearing is so good that he can hear all kinds of Versailles words from time to time.
Such as: "Your question is really difficult, no wonder you have been stuck for a week, and it will take me about 5 minutes to solve it."
Another example: "Hey, really, I was a literary youth before I entered high school, and I didn't like math at all. But the math teacher said that I was good in math, so he must let me enroll in the Math Olympiad class. In fact, I have good grades in every subject , Why did you like my mathematics? Who would have thought of enrolling in a Mathematical Olympiad class? I really won the grand prize, so I was sent to Yanbei in such a daze. So it is a tragedy for me to come here..."
The more advanced one is: "Hey, congratulations, my junior has published another paper on springer. I see that the paper you published on New Advances in Mathematics is included in the literature you cited. Why don't you quote me? How about saying hello?"
Of course, Ning Wei is definitely the best among them, even introducing him to the people in the yard can make him show off his tricks.
For example, the Dr. Zhou I met this morning, Liu Wei still remembers how Ning Wei introduced him to him at that time: "This is senior brother Zhou, who studies the grnbner basis of calculating the flag manifold Einstein equations. It sounds very complicated. Right? Actually, it wasn’t difficult for Senior Brother Zhou at all. At that time, Senior Brother Zhou said it wasn’t difficult. I thought he was pretending. Later, I got a general understanding of this aspect, and it really wasn’t too...”
At that time, Ning Wei hadn't finished speaking, and the person on the other side turned away in embarrassment.
Another example is the daily chat style between Ning Wei and Lu Dongyi.
"Brother, are you reading the literature again?"
"Well, your previous paper."
"Really, which article should I read? Oh, this one! Hey, I really envy you, brother."
"What do you envy me for?"
"No matter what kind of research you do, there are other people's literature that you can refer to. You look at me, and I feel a little sad when I think about it. When I wrote the paper you are reading, there is not a single reference."
At that time, Liu Wei still had a complete expression of question marks on Lu Dongyi's face, it was really wonderful.It's the sense of bewilderment that will be shown very suddenly, which is vividly expressed.
So in order not to continue to show her face, Liu Wei decided to change the subject.
After thinking about it carefully, Liu Wei said: "By the way, I forgot to congratulate you. You won the Wolf Award. Today I specifically checked this award. It's amazing."
"Hi……"
Ning Wei shook his head sadly, and said, "Brother Liu, why are you being polite? What's there to congratulate? To be honest, I won Wolff one more time than someone like you who never studies mathematics." It’s just an award. I really have nothing to be proud of. And I don’t understand why many people say that they are proud of winning the Wolf Award. Honor is right."
"And don't be fooled by those people, I actually did some very simple things. It's nothing difficult. To put it bluntly, it's just doing some corresponding work between the mathematical laws and the real world, so that the computer can understand text, pictures, and understand the laws. .I got the prize purely because other mathematicians didn't think of it."
Liu Wei was silent, and said after a while: "Just now you invited me to your house for dinner, right?"
"Yes!"
"Well, I'll go, okay?"
"Agreed earlier, I will waste my tongue for a long time. This may be a huge waste of resources. You just said that many old professors want me to give lectures in the research institute..."
Liu Wei: "..."
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