Future super intelligent system
Chapter 48 How about a showdown?
Chapter 48 How about a showdown?
"It's not something disgraceful, why did you keep it from everyone?" Liu Fan admitted his identity, and Meng Xiao asked curiously.Meng Xiao didn't pay much attention to Wood Dragon Technology at first. Although she knew about this company, she didn't know that the boss of Wood Dragon Technology was Liu Fan.
So when the students mentioned this matter just now, Meng Xiao had a strange guess, but when she saw this photo, she was basically sure.
And when she found out that a classmate who was usually unknown was such a powerful person, her curiosity was naturally overwhelmed, and curiosity would inevitably arise in anyone who was involved in this kind of thing.It's just that girls are relatively more curious and will take the initiative to ask.
Maybe if it was a boy, if the two of them were not very familiar with each other, they wouldn't ask each other face to face, and at most they would chat with others after dinner.
These are some natural differences in the character of men and women.
"Actually, I didn't deliberately hide it from everyone." Liu Fan suppressed his voice, "I can't just tell everyone that I started a company, right? It's like a mentally retarded person."
Meng Xiao felt that what Liu Fan said seemed to make sense, but also seemed to be unreasonable, but she didn't bother with this question, but started a bombarding inquiry:
"When did you start your business?"
"Did you start your own business?"
"Where did you get the capital to start a business? Your father suddenly told you that you are actually a rich second generation?"
"How is the company doing now?"
"Does your company lack a spokesperson?"
“Will artificial intelligence destroy humanity in the future?”
"."
One question after another, Liu Fan answered each other's questions patiently, but neither of them noticed the reaction of other students in the class, "What's wrong with this world, all beauties like to be vegetarian?"
Two hours later, Meng Xiao was dragged away by Jiang Yicheng, Liu Fan and Wang Long were arranged to prepare the ingredients for the evening barbecue, and Zhang Kaixiang was with them.
Originally, Liu Fan and Wang Long could have a lot of conversations together, but Zhang Kaixiang was like an air conditioner turned on the lowest temperature, keeping the air temperature between the three of them down.
Wanting to ease the atmosphere, Liu Fan took the initiative to ask Zhang Kaixiang, "Kaixiang, I remember your goal was to be an actuary before, right? Why do you want to be an algorithm engineer now?"
"Actuary is the goal my father set for me." Zhang Kaixiang said while skewering the meat. He is not a cool person, but he is not very good at talking. If someone speaks first, he will not reject people thousands of miles away , "But people have to live for themselves."
Liu Fan nodded, but didn't know how to continue the conversation.After a few seconds of silence, Zhang Kaixiang spoke first, "I heard from Lin Shulin that you have been an intern for the past six months? Data engineer?"
"Ah."
"Then how is your python level now?" Zhang Kaixiang asked.
"It's not bad, I learned a lot from them." Liu Fan said casually, not knowing what Zhang Kaixiang meant.
"Have you found your thesis partner yet?"
"Paper?" Liu Fan became more and more confused, "I found it."
"That's it." Zhang Kaixiang thought for a while, "Forget it."
Liu Fan could see that Zhang Kaixiang had something to do, so he asked directly, "What did you want to do? Let me know first."
"It's like this." When Liu Fan asked, Zhang Kaixiang also said that this person's personality is like this, "I don't know if you have heard about the wood dragon technology that everyone mentioned just now?"
"Of course I understand." Liu Fan replied, he took it for granted, really, really took it for granted.
Zhang Kaixiang put down his skewering job and continued, "I have been studying their products some time ago. I have used their free functions and compared them with other big data processing products. I have repeatedly compared the results. I think the product logic of Mulong Technology is very classical mathematics, so at first I thought they might have optimized Bayesian.
But then it didn't feel right, because I did iterative simulations with their products, and I was able to derive a matching mathematical model. "
Liu Fan's eyes lit up and he asked subconsciously, "What do you want to say?"
"I suspect they're not training an algorithm with data, they're training an algorithm with an algorithm."
Strictly speaking, what Zhang Kaixiang said was not correct, but Liu Fan was very surprised by his way of thinking, and he unknowingly put down what he was doing, and continued to ask, "So?"
"So I'm thinking about another thing. In fact, this conjecture has been in my mind for more than half a year. Algorithms have always been regarded as the bottom layer of the entire artificial intelligence industry, and the source of algorithms is basic mathematics. Then the problem comes. Basic mathematics Where did it come from?
Teacher Zhang mentioned before that the world is made up of basic mathematics, but here is a question of whether the chicken or the egg came first. Did the function rules come first, and then the world slowly evolved into what it is today according to the rules, or is it the same? In the beginning, there was only a messy world, and through the passage of time, after countless rule optimizations, a series of optimal mathematical function rules have been gradually achieved?
If the development of the world is the latter, then the current deep learning algorithm is no problem, we are also constantly deriving the optimal solution, but what if the development of the world is the former?What if the function rules are deterministic?Because of human-subjective algorithm setting, it will inevitably lead to data deviation, so the optimal solution under this kind of data deviation is destined to never be the real optimal solution? "
Wang Long, who was standing beside Liu Fan, became more and more confused, and couldn't help asking, "Can friends speak human language?"
Liu Fan reached out his hand to signal Wang Long to stop talking, "So are you thinking, is it possible to design an algorithm that does not calculate the result but deduces the function?"
Zhang Kaixiang's eyes suddenly lit up, "Have you thought about it too?"
Liu Fan didn't shy away and nodded, "But there are several big problems here. One is that you don't know the number of functions. Perhaps the entire universe may run under one function. Second, you don't know the scope of functions. , you will have no way to start when inputting data, and the third is that you cannot determine whether there is any influence between functions."
"I have thought about all these problems." Zhang Kaixiang leaned closer to Liu Fan, "But you can do experiments. The function rules I guess are like Russian nesting dolls. Each doll has its own function rules. , but in a larger range, the functions in the small range will be swallowed by the functions in the large range. When the functions conflict, the rules of the large-scale functions shall prevail. If my conjecture is true, in fact Data input can be unlimited.”
Liu Fan was so excited that he almost wanted to kiss Zhang Kaixiang, but the other person's guess was so similar to his own!
Liu Fan even had an idea, if Zhang Kaixiang came to his company.
How about finding a chance to have a showdown with Zhang Kaixiang?
(End of this chapter)
"It's not something disgraceful, why did you keep it from everyone?" Liu Fan admitted his identity, and Meng Xiao asked curiously.Meng Xiao didn't pay much attention to Wood Dragon Technology at first. Although she knew about this company, she didn't know that the boss of Wood Dragon Technology was Liu Fan.
So when the students mentioned this matter just now, Meng Xiao had a strange guess, but when she saw this photo, she was basically sure.
And when she found out that a classmate who was usually unknown was such a powerful person, her curiosity was naturally overwhelmed, and curiosity would inevitably arise in anyone who was involved in this kind of thing.It's just that girls are relatively more curious and will take the initiative to ask.
Maybe if it was a boy, if the two of them were not very familiar with each other, they wouldn't ask each other face to face, and at most they would chat with others after dinner.
These are some natural differences in the character of men and women.
"Actually, I didn't deliberately hide it from everyone." Liu Fan suppressed his voice, "I can't just tell everyone that I started a company, right? It's like a mentally retarded person."
Meng Xiao felt that what Liu Fan said seemed to make sense, but also seemed to be unreasonable, but she didn't bother with this question, but started a bombarding inquiry:
"When did you start your business?"
"Did you start your own business?"
"Where did you get the capital to start a business? Your father suddenly told you that you are actually a rich second generation?"
"How is the company doing now?"
"Does your company lack a spokesperson?"
“Will artificial intelligence destroy humanity in the future?”
"."
One question after another, Liu Fan answered each other's questions patiently, but neither of them noticed the reaction of other students in the class, "What's wrong with this world, all beauties like to be vegetarian?"
Two hours later, Meng Xiao was dragged away by Jiang Yicheng, Liu Fan and Wang Long were arranged to prepare the ingredients for the evening barbecue, and Zhang Kaixiang was with them.
Originally, Liu Fan and Wang Long could have a lot of conversations together, but Zhang Kaixiang was like an air conditioner turned on the lowest temperature, keeping the air temperature between the three of them down.
Wanting to ease the atmosphere, Liu Fan took the initiative to ask Zhang Kaixiang, "Kaixiang, I remember your goal was to be an actuary before, right? Why do you want to be an algorithm engineer now?"
"Actuary is the goal my father set for me." Zhang Kaixiang said while skewering the meat. He is not a cool person, but he is not very good at talking. If someone speaks first, he will not reject people thousands of miles away , "But people have to live for themselves."
Liu Fan nodded, but didn't know how to continue the conversation.After a few seconds of silence, Zhang Kaixiang spoke first, "I heard from Lin Shulin that you have been an intern for the past six months? Data engineer?"
"Ah."
"Then how is your python level now?" Zhang Kaixiang asked.
"It's not bad, I learned a lot from them." Liu Fan said casually, not knowing what Zhang Kaixiang meant.
"Have you found your thesis partner yet?"
"Paper?" Liu Fan became more and more confused, "I found it."
"That's it." Zhang Kaixiang thought for a while, "Forget it."
Liu Fan could see that Zhang Kaixiang had something to do, so he asked directly, "What did you want to do? Let me know first."
"It's like this." When Liu Fan asked, Zhang Kaixiang also said that this person's personality is like this, "I don't know if you have heard about the wood dragon technology that everyone mentioned just now?"
"Of course I understand." Liu Fan replied, he took it for granted, really, really took it for granted.
Zhang Kaixiang put down his skewering job and continued, "I have been studying their products some time ago. I have used their free functions and compared them with other big data processing products. I have repeatedly compared the results. I think the product logic of Mulong Technology is very classical mathematics, so at first I thought they might have optimized Bayesian.
But then it didn't feel right, because I did iterative simulations with their products, and I was able to derive a matching mathematical model. "
Liu Fan's eyes lit up and he asked subconsciously, "What do you want to say?"
"I suspect they're not training an algorithm with data, they're training an algorithm with an algorithm."
Strictly speaking, what Zhang Kaixiang said was not correct, but Liu Fan was very surprised by his way of thinking, and he unknowingly put down what he was doing, and continued to ask, "So?"
"So I'm thinking about another thing. In fact, this conjecture has been in my mind for more than half a year. Algorithms have always been regarded as the bottom layer of the entire artificial intelligence industry, and the source of algorithms is basic mathematics. Then the problem comes. Basic mathematics Where did it come from?
Teacher Zhang mentioned before that the world is made up of basic mathematics, but here is a question of whether the chicken or the egg came first. Did the function rules come first, and then the world slowly evolved into what it is today according to the rules, or is it the same? In the beginning, there was only a messy world, and through the passage of time, after countless rule optimizations, a series of optimal mathematical function rules have been gradually achieved?
If the development of the world is the latter, then the current deep learning algorithm is no problem, we are also constantly deriving the optimal solution, but what if the development of the world is the former?What if the function rules are deterministic?Because of human-subjective algorithm setting, it will inevitably lead to data deviation, so the optimal solution under this kind of data deviation is destined to never be the real optimal solution? "
Wang Long, who was standing beside Liu Fan, became more and more confused, and couldn't help asking, "Can friends speak human language?"
Liu Fan reached out his hand to signal Wang Long to stop talking, "So are you thinking, is it possible to design an algorithm that does not calculate the result but deduces the function?"
Zhang Kaixiang's eyes suddenly lit up, "Have you thought about it too?"
Liu Fan didn't shy away and nodded, "But there are several big problems here. One is that you don't know the number of functions. Perhaps the entire universe may run under one function. Second, you don't know the scope of functions. , you will have no way to start when inputting data, and the third is that you cannot determine whether there is any influence between functions."
"I have thought about all these problems." Zhang Kaixiang leaned closer to Liu Fan, "But you can do experiments. The function rules I guess are like Russian nesting dolls. Each doll has its own function rules. , but in a larger range, the functions in the small range will be swallowed by the functions in the large range. When the functions conflict, the rules of the large-scale functions shall prevail. If my conjecture is true, in fact Data input can be unlimited.”
Liu Fan was so excited that he almost wanted to kiss Zhang Kaixiang, but the other person's guess was so similar to his own!
Liu Fan even had an idea, if Zhang Kaixiang came to his company.
How about finding a chance to have a showdown with Zhang Kaixiang?
(End of this chapter)
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