Future super intelligent system
Chapter 116
Chapter 116
In late July, Liu Fan and AMAT president Gary met at a restaurant in Meijiawu, Hangzhou.
Gary has a deep understanding of Chinese culture, and I don't know if he has inquired about Liu Fan's love for Chinese culture in advance. After the meeting, he has been chatting with Liu Fan about Chinese culture, and he also mentioned that he particularly likes the ideas of Mohism.
But Gary was indeed able to talk about many issues in depth, and Liu Fan's first impression of him was quite good.
After chatting about culture and eating, after the gap between the two gradually disappeared, Gary finally started talking about business. This negotiation model is also very Chinese.
"Mr. Liu, I heard that your company has recently made great breakthroughs in intelligent manufacturing. Some time ago, our engineers visited Huaxin International. After seeing your products, they were really full of praise."
"Mr. Gary is too good." The other party praised him, and Liu Fan was polite. Gary was different from the Westerners he met before, which made Liu Fan not know how to take the initiative. Why don't you say less Listen.
"It's Mr. Liu who is being modest." Gary's eyes moved slightly, probably with an idea in his heart, "Mr. Liu, I don't know if you know about the artificial intelligence project that AMAT has been developing for the past few years."
"I've heard of it." Liu Fan nodded, "But I don't know much about it."
"Then let me briefly tell Mr. Liu that with the improvement of nodes in the semiconductor market, the process control of wafer manufacturing has become more and more complicated, and the requirements for technology are getting higher and higher.
At this time, there are more and more limits to human capabilities. If you want to make the semiconductor industry go further, artificial intelligence is obviously the most likely way to solve this bottleneck. In addition, because of the complexity of the semiconductor industry As well as wide applicability, this industry has an extremely large amount of data. You may not know that the amount of data generated by a fab in a year can reach more than 1PB, and the amount of data in the entire industry is unimaginable.
Therefore, we have been trying to use artificial intelligence + big data in the semiconductor industry to allow artificial intelligence to be more involved in more refined and higher-tech tasks in the semiconductor industry, thereby promoting the rapid innovation of the entire semiconductor industry.
Unfortunately, I don’t know if it’s because of the particularity of the semiconductor industry, but we haven’t made any major breakthroughs in this field. I don’t hide from Mr. Liu. In fact, we approached Google a long time ago, but Google couldn’t find it. Give us a lot of help. "
Gary paused, waiting for Liu Fan's response. Liu Fan thought briefly and asked, "There seems to be a problem here. Although a fab can produce 1PB of data a year, how do you make these wafers Do the factories share the data? Should this be a commercial secret?”
"Mr. Liu may still not know much about our company. In addition to providing equipment and materials, we also provide services to semiconductor companies. Therefore, the amount of data stored in our company may be far beyond your imagination, and it can involve the semiconductor industry. Every detail."
Liu Fan moved the cup in front of him to the side, and asked directly, "Then how does Mr. Gary want to cooperate with us?"
"We hope that Wood Dragon Technology can provide us with technical support."
Liu Fan narrowed his eyes and asked, "Who does the final research result belong to?"
Gary smiled again, watching Liu Fan all the time, as if he was quickly weighing what he was going to say next, "The research results belonged to both of us at that time."
Liu Fan took a deep breath and his expression became a little more serious, "Mr. Gary, our Mulong Technology has signed a number of big data privacy clauses. If we are just a technology supplier, if the research is successful, it belongs to you and has nothing to do with us. I don’t know what you mean by belonging to both parties?”
Gary's eyes also became sharper, and he changed from his previous calm look, "Since Mr. Liu mentioned this issue, we should also show the sincerity that we should have. If Wood Dragon Technology doesn't dislike it, your company can invest in our company. A one-time project, so the later research results naturally belong to both of us.
Of course, as a condition for buying shares, we hope that your company can also show a certain degree of sincerity. "
Liu Fan shook his head on the spot, "Sorry Mr. Gary, this is not the mode I want."
"Then what mode do you want?"
"Technology sharing, I will provide you with big data analysis services, and you will provide me with technical guidance on the production of some of your company's equipment."
"Mr. Liu, that's not how business is negotiated, right?" Gary resisted, "You offer services in exchange for our technology? We lost a lot on this deal."
"You can't say that." Liu Fan gradually opened up his aura, "First of all, although you have taught us technology, but you have so many years of mature assembly lines, even if we learn technology, it will be difficult for us to catch up with you. It is just to make more equipment localized, but it is very difficult, even almost impossible, to threaten you.
Furthermore, you should be very clear about how valuable our big data analysis service of Wood Dragon Technology is.What you exchanged for the production technical guidance of some equipment may be AMAT's absolute dominance in the entire industry, isn't it worthwhile? "
However, Liu Fan's words obviously did not convince Gary on the spot, and the two sides entered a long-term negotiation tug-of-war.
Three days later, the exhausted two parties finally reached a consensus: Liu Fan provided AMAT with big data analysis services, and AMAT provided Kunxin Technology with production technical guidance for 8 types of equipment.
And these 8 types of equipment are all equipment that China is relatively weak at present but difficult to purchase.Of course, these guidances are not delivered at one time. It depends on whether the big data analysis of Wood Dragon Technology can bring AMAT what they want.
Once Wood Dragon Technology brings substantive results to AMAT, then these technical guidance will be gradually implemented, and this is why Liu Fan wants to meet AMAT.
AMAT has almost all high-end equipment involved in chip production except lithography machines, and now Liu Fan has no ability to produce these equipment, so he decided to use his own technology in exchange for a rare technical guidance for Huaxia.
In this way, he entrusted the R&D and production of these equipment, and even the rapid development of these equipment production in the future, to the hardworking Chinese workers.
Because Liu Fan believes that as long as the unfair monopoly is broken and everyone is given a relatively fair starting point, the Chinese people can quickly achieve rapid development in any industry, because the Chinese people have always been like this.
(End of this chapter)
In late July, Liu Fan and AMAT president Gary met at a restaurant in Meijiawu, Hangzhou.
Gary has a deep understanding of Chinese culture, and I don't know if he has inquired about Liu Fan's love for Chinese culture in advance. After the meeting, he has been chatting with Liu Fan about Chinese culture, and he also mentioned that he particularly likes the ideas of Mohism.
But Gary was indeed able to talk about many issues in depth, and Liu Fan's first impression of him was quite good.
After chatting about culture and eating, after the gap between the two gradually disappeared, Gary finally started talking about business. This negotiation model is also very Chinese.
"Mr. Liu, I heard that your company has recently made great breakthroughs in intelligent manufacturing. Some time ago, our engineers visited Huaxin International. After seeing your products, they were really full of praise."
"Mr. Gary is too good." The other party praised him, and Liu Fan was polite. Gary was different from the Westerners he met before, which made Liu Fan not know how to take the initiative. Why don't you say less Listen.
"It's Mr. Liu who is being modest." Gary's eyes moved slightly, probably with an idea in his heart, "Mr. Liu, I don't know if you know about the artificial intelligence project that AMAT has been developing for the past few years."
"I've heard of it." Liu Fan nodded, "But I don't know much about it."
"Then let me briefly tell Mr. Liu that with the improvement of nodes in the semiconductor market, the process control of wafer manufacturing has become more and more complicated, and the requirements for technology are getting higher and higher.
At this time, there are more and more limits to human capabilities. If you want to make the semiconductor industry go further, artificial intelligence is obviously the most likely way to solve this bottleneck. In addition, because of the complexity of the semiconductor industry As well as wide applicability, this industry has an extremely large amount of data. You may not know that the amount of data generated by a fab in a year can reach more than 1PB, and the amount of data in the entire industry is unimaginable.
Therefore, we have been trying to use artificial intelligence + big data in the semiconductor industry to allow artificial intelligence to be more involved in more refined and higher-tech tasks in the semiconductor industry, thereby promoting the rapid innovation of the entire semiconductor industry.
Unfortunately, I don’t know if it’s because of the particularity of the semiconductor industry, but we haven’t made any major breakthroughs in this field. I don’t hide from Mr. Liu. In fact, we approached Google a long time ago, but Google couldn’t find it. Give us a lot of help. "
Gary paused, waiting for Liu Fan's response. Liu Fan thought briefly and asked, "There seems to be a problem here. Although a fab can produce 1PB of data a year, how do you make these wafers Do the factories share the data? Should this be a commercial secret?”
"Mr. Liu may still not know much about our company. In addition to providing equipment and materials, we also provide services to semiconductor companies. Therefore, the amount of data stored in our company may be far beyond your imagination, and it can involve the semiconductor industry. Every detail."
Liu Fan moved the cup in front of him to the side, and asked directly, "Then how does Mr. Gary want to cooperate with us?"
"We hope that Wood Dragon Technology can provide us with technical support."
Liu Fan narrowed his eyes and asked, "Who does the final research result belong to?"
Gary smiled again, watching Liu Fan all the time, as if he was quickly weighing what he was going to say next, "The research results belonged to both of us at that time."
Liu Fan took a deep breath and his expression became a little more serious, "Mr. Gary, our Mulong Technology has signed a number of big data privacy clauses. If we are just a technology supplier, if the research is successful, it belongs to you and has nothing to do with us. I don’t know what you mean by belonging to both parties?”
Gary's eyes also became sharper, and he changed from his previous calm look, "Since Mr. Liu mentioned this issue, we should also show the sincerity that we should have. If Wood Dragon Technology doesn't dislike it, your company can invest in our company. A one-time project, so the later research results naturally belong to both of us.
Of course, as a condition for buying shares, we hope that your company can also show a certain degree of sincerity. "
Liu Fan shook his head on the spot, "Sorry Mr. Gary, this is not the mode I want."
"Then what mode do you want?"
"Technology sharing, I will provide you with big data analysis services, and you will provide me with technical guidance on the production of some of your company's equipment."
"Mr. Liu, that's not how business is negotiated, right?" Gary resisted, "You offer services in exchange for our technology? We lost a lot on this deal."
"You can't say that." Liu Fan gradually opened up his aura, "First of all, although you have taught us technology, but you have so many years of mature assembly lines, even if we learn technology, it will be difficult for us to catch up with you. It is just to make more equipment localized, but it is very difficult, even almost impossible, to threaten you.
Furthermore, you should be very clear about how valuable our big data analysis service of Wood Dragon Technology is.What you exchanged for the production technical guidance of some equipment may be AMAT's absolute dominance in the entire industry, isn't it worthwhile? "
However, Liu Fan's words obviously did not convince Gary on the spot, and the two sides entered a long-term negotiation tug-of-war.
Three days later, the exhausted two parties finally reached a consensus: Liu Fan provided AMAT with big data analysis services, and AMAT provided Kunxin Technology with production technical guidance for 8 types of equipment.
And these 8 types of equipment are all equipment that China is relatively weak at present but difficult to purchase.Of course, these guidances are not delivered at one time. It depends on whether the big data analysis of Wood Dragon Technology can bring AMAT what they want.
Once Wood Dragon Technology brings substantive results to AMAT, then these technical guidance will be gradually implemented, and this is why Liu Fan wants to meet AMAT.
AMAT has almost all high-end equipment involved in chip production except lithography machines, and now Liu Fan has no ability to produce these equipment, so he decided to use his own technology in exchange for a rare technical guidance for Huaxia.
In this way, he entrusted the R&D and production of these equipment, and even the rapid development of these equipment production in the future, to the hardworking Chinese workers.
Because Liu Fan believes that as long as the unfair monopoly is broken and everyone is given a relatively fair starting point, the Chinese people can quickly achieve rapid development in any industry, because the Chinese people have always been like this.
(End of this chapter)
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