1991 Starting from the core

After listening, Su Yuanshan lowered his head and took a sip of coffee, taking this opportunity to hide his mood.

At this time, the more calm you need to be.

So, when he raised his head again, his expression seemed to have not changed, and he was still looking back at Gerstner with a smile.

Then...he nodded slightly and said, "Thank you."

Gerstner was visibly startled, and then laughed uncontrollably. While laughing, he shook his head: "Su, it seems that the rumors are indeed true. You are a more calm little fox than us - I didn't offend you, did I?"

Su Yuanshan smiled and shook his head: "No, in the context of my native language, this generally refers to a kind of appreciation from the elders to the younger ones."

"It's not just appreciation." Gerstner exhaled slowly: "Can I interpret your thank you just now as your recognition of our wishes?"

"Yes." Su Yuanshan nodded without hesitation: "But... there is one thing I am not very clear about - what is our common goal in terms of fab process technology?"

"About the next generation process wire technology." Gerstner said and shrugged: "My boys told me that your copper wire technology seems to have made enough progress..."

Su Yuanshan took a deep breath.

I see.

It seems that IBM's ambition to continue to have "power over the world" in the semiconductor industry has never disappeared - even in the previous life, Gerstner cut off countless departments, but the wafer factory has always remained.

After all, there is a famous saying in Western technology circles - A good man must have his own fab - this famous saying was said by AMD's Mr. Sanders - so AMD has been dragged down by GlobalFoundries for countless years.

Interestingly, it seems that IBM's wafer fab was eventually acquired by GlobalFoundries.

Back to reality, IBM has never given up investment in fabs and processes, especially in core process technologies.

For example, in the copper wire manufacturing process, IBM first cooperated with UMC, and finally wanted to sell it to TSMC. As a result, TSMC thought that IBM's technology was a bit out of date, and the price was too expensive, so Jiang Shangyi and Liang Mengsong started to tinker with it on their own, and made it big. Be successful...

As for IBM's copper wire technology, it was eventually sold to GlobalFoundries.

Of course, these are all things in the past life. In this life, it seems that history has deviated from the track. IBM actually turned its attention to Yuanxin.

Yuanxin's research on copper wires is of course confidential, but the papers published by Chen Jianguo and his team during this period are public. As long as you are in the same industry, you can tell what Yuanxin is doing at a glance.

"About the copper wire manufacturing process..." Su Yuanshan pondered for a few seconds and nodded slowly: "I hope to conduct subsequent cooperation discussions after both parties conduct a technical evaluation." After a pause, Su Yuanshan added: "You understand, in In the field of science and technology, unless there is only one way, or it is a difficult problem that must be overcome by gathering the strength of everyone, otherwise... having one more direction will be beneficial to the development of the entire technical field."

Su Yuanshan spoke slowly and carefully. He was afraid that this professional manager, who had been engaged in marketing and business management for decades despite his background in engineering, would not understand what he meant, so he almost said, "If we think differently, Then everyone will go his own way, and we will see whose plan is better when the time comes."

But he was overly worried. Gerstner obviously understood what Su Yuanshan said. After frowning slightly without leaving any trace, Gerstner nodded with a smile: "Yes, and it should be so."

"Please have some coffee, and if it's convenient, please ask Mr. Louis to give you a schedule of the next itinerary and affairs so that we can fulfill our obligations as the master."

…

After sending Gerstner and his party into the guest room elevator, Su Yuanshan and others entered another elevator.

Every time Su Yuanshan comes to Shanghai, he always stays in this hotel.

Back in the guest room, Su Yuanshan immediately informed Zhou Xiaohui and Li Mingliu of Gerstner's intention.

"You mean, he is here to discuss cooperation this time?" Zhou Xiaohui has stayed in the Special Administrative Region for a long time and is very aware of the current situation and advantages of the foundry.

After Yuanxin took the lead in implementing the vertical procurement system, some companies located in the special zone that became members of the supply chain system have grown rapidly at a speed visible to the naked eye in the past year - Yuanxin's quality control management is notoriously strict. , In addition, Yu Yuru's legal department directly parachuted a director to squat in the supply chain. It was a delusion to try to sneak through the border with small tricks.

The growth of these supplier companies is also one of the manifestations of the comprehensive competitiveness of Yuanxin foundry and even the entire special zone.

Low manpower, low logistics costs, coupled with excellent supply chain management system and quality, can attract IBM to come to discuss cooperation.

"Well, that seems to be the case so far. And this year Apple will also consider trial production of consoles here... Coupled with Dell and Motorola who have already signed cooperation, the development of the foundry is indeed very gratifying."

"What about the manufacturing process?" As the technical person in charge, Li Mingliu naturally focused on manufacturing process cooperation. Although he didn't know the specific progress of Chen Jianguo's team, he knew that Chen Jianguo's team had gradually grown in size and had attracted many engineers from the island.

Now it seems that Chen Jianguo's progress is relatively fast.

"We have to look at the manufacturing process." Su Yuanshan frowned and sighed softly: "Frankly speaking, I don't really want to cooperate with IBM."

Here Li Mingliu breathed a sigh of relief, with admiration in his eyes.

Anyone who is engaged in semiconductors or IT knows what Big Blue means... Anyone who can get IBM to proactively seek cooperation would have been "flattered" if it had been anyone else.

You know, this is "cooperation"!

But Su Yuanshan didn't want to cooperate from the bottom of his heart.

This temper alone means that this guy is really awesome.

"But many things are not based on our will." Su Yuanshan pursed his lips and said hesitantly.

He knew that IBM's copper wire manufacturing process... was not good.

Of course, it’s not that it’s impossible, it’s just that it was not as good as what Liang Mengsong and the others did when they were at TSMC.

So, if we can cooperate with IBM and license the copper wire manufacturing process with intellectual property rights to other companies, it will be like laying a landmine in advance.

It's just that IBM is a bit eccentric... What if IBM's direction is different from that of Yuanxin, and cooperation will affect the progress? What should I do if the remote core is taken astray?

You know, Su Yuanshan is a pure layman on copper wire manufacturing technology. He only knew the general process, but he really knew nothing about the technical know-how.